Thursday, April 14, 2005

The taxman cometh

From Frank Capra's 1938 Oscar-winning (Best Picture, Best Director) You Can't Take It With You:
IRS Agent: "Our records show that you have never paid an income tax."

Grandpa Vanderhoff (Lionel Barrymore): "That's right."

IRS Agent: "Why not?"

Grandpa Vanderhoff: "I don't believe in it. ... What do I get for my money? ... I wouldn't mind paying for something sensible."

IRS Agent: "Something sensible. What about Congress and the Supreme Court and the President? We gotta pay them, don't we?"

Grandpa Vanderhoff: "Not with my money."


At 4:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Society, as distinguished from the Government, is mounted upon a costly Bureaucracy and cannot now conveniently dismount, for the Bureaucracy staggers now and again from dangerous destination to appalling destination, and Society is frightened. Heed the words of the POPE: "Be not afraid!" Only a People of Courage can allow themselves to be FREE.

At 6:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think most people would admit that they loathe the whole concept of paying taxes on their income. It’s just one more aspect of our lives that feels out of control. I deplore the concept of penalizing people with initiative and a desire to make a better life for themselves and their families.

Consider a person sitting around their modest home, out of work and possibly receiving some form of public assistance. Where is the tax man? He doesn’t care about you because you have nothing to offer! But put that unemployed person behind a word processor with some inspiration and let him or her click their way to a bestseller, and the tax man is right there with his hand out! I hate that!

I really like the idea of a value added tax. That gives me the ability to control my tax spending. It allows me to choose whether I want a product or not based on how much additional it will cost to pay for taxes. This taxation method also captures money from all other sources that would ordinarily go undetected.

I always have enough money withheld from my paycheck to cover what my government deems necessary for my income and so I don’t have a fit when April 15th comes along. But on this day, I stop and wonder how long people will allow the current method of taxation to continue?

At 8:14 AM, Blogger Toledo Bob said...

Only an idiot would consent to pay taxes for the overweight and underperforming various levels of government we have. I'll be glad to pay for minimum government, but not at all for this monstrosity!

At 8:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd be willing to pay taxes to make the government smaller and less intrusive. But to finance more government? HELL NO!!!!!

At 8:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are slaves.

If we don't now revolt, we are also fools.

At 8:57 AM, Blogger Wally Conger said...

"I'd be willing to pay taxes to make the government smaller and less intrusive."

Pumping more blood into the Beast to make it smaller? THAT would be a good trick!

At 9:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The value added tax is almost a good idea, but what happens when they start taxing things they don't really want you to buy, like cigarettes and handguns, at exorbitant rates? In no time we'll have a politican who thinks a 90% tax on smokes will reduce health care costs and a 90% tax on guns will reduce crime. Also, throw in the idea of a value added tax IN ADDITION TO the income tax - there's really no guarantee 'they' will actually discontinue the income tax, or even reduce it, for that matter.

The taxes suck, and maybe they can become a tipping point, but as a people we face bigger problems. The largest problem being helping the american people see that the rest of the problems generally boil down to thing: too much government.

At 11:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

When it boils down to it what we really need is an organization of 100,000 or more so we can tax revolt en masse. As individuals we don't stand a chance.

At 11:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Conservative, usually Christian, Americans have become very timid and tolerant with regard to their political opinions and wishes. "Values" have replace Godly morals. Agnostics, atheists and apostate Puritans have replaced Christians as the vocal 51% in the U.S. socialist political system.

The level of corruption in American government and business has become massive during the last 150 years. The administrations of some presidents more than others have radically affected the taxes we pay and the enlarging of the central (no longer federal) government.

Since the illegal pronouncement, not the passage, of the 14th Amendment, American government was overthrown and replaced by a highly consolidated and centralized empire. "The Great Experiment" beginning with Abraham Lincoln was not new but the same old hash of centralized empire rule.

The American empire system of government, not just taxes, is broken and cannot be fixed and real efforts to reform and decentralize have failed and will continue to fail. The United States government of North America needs a regime change but because of the above a regime change will not work either.

Empires, like the United State(s)of America, are too big, too dangerous and eventually fall under their own weight of trying to control everyone and their wealth.

If some of our states were individual country's, they may well still be too big.

The clash in the Middle East will fail to truly unite Americans. We are too diverse and have been since the U.S.Civil War against the South. That war was more a war between two cultures with the one saying "enough is enough. Leave us alone and let's part as friends. The U.S. said, "No deal." As we can now see with U.S. military forces in 130 nations and 40 other independent islands and territories, the United States will not leave anyone alone. Other nations are coming to believe that the USA will have to be destroyed for these oother nations to be left alone.

Diverse peoples in the USA increasingly want and need their own nations to guide and to be able to govern themselves. Government-by-consent-of-the-governed was lost through the Civil War but the principle remains in the hearts of men and women who wish to be free as in the hearts of any large diverse element of any empire.

The arrogance of a large military presence has shown that the USA is not a slow learner but rather that, as long as it can maintain a military power, it won't learn to mind its own business.

At 2:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

IRS Caught Cheating!!

How many Americans have had to endure the intrusive and frightening interrogation known as an IRS "audit"? Well it turns out that while sticking its nose in everyone else's business, the IRS has been less than honest itself. More specifically, the IRS has been caught cheating... to the tune of about a trillion dollars a year.

The IRS is quite experienced at using intimidation, demonization, and harassment tactics, but what can be done when the "enforcers" are the ones breaking the rules? Click below to see how at least one man is standing up to the IRS.


The 861 Evidence Team

At 3:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Manning:

As an agnostic myself, I take exception to being lumped in with the likes of socialists. You can call me godless, a heretic, a dirty pagan nonbeliever... but socialist? Them's fightin' words. :-) I may not share your faith, but I appear to share most of your political values. There are some of us nonbelievers, who while unable to honestly profess the faith, acknowledge a debt to the great thinkers of liberty and to the Christian tradition that produced them.

At 6:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

From Jacques Ellul's
"Anarchy and Christianity":

Concientious objection is
objection not merely to military service but to all the demands and obligations imposed by our society: to taxes, to vac-
cination, to compulsory
schooling, etc.

Great man - great book.

At 8:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Communist Manifesto states at Plank 2 that a heavy progressive income tax shall be instituted. It comes at no surprise to me that we have so many Marxists in this country that they don't even know what's happening. I guess if people think that there income tax money actually goes to something in this country they should get the Grace Commission Report and read it. Anyone who supports the IRS is just a perfectly indoctrinated socialist.


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